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		<title>Just a Question. Do you actually hate your Job?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Working in an agency is a strange thing: Usually you work more hours per day than most of your friends who are employees of a Bank, an Insurance company or who may be Gardeners. Many in our industry earn less than what they could get paid if they would have gone to &#8216;the industry&#8217; (a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working in an agency is a strange thing: Usually you work more hours per day than most of your friends who are employees of a Bank, an Insurance company or who may be Gardeners. Many in our industry earn less than what they could get paid if they would have gone to &#8216;the industry&#8217; (a mystical word in agencies that describes an unknown Utopia, think: Xanadu). And few people really have a good plan what to do with their career once they crossed the 45 without being CCO. Long story short: Deciding to work for an agency is quite a stupid decision.</p>
<p>But then: You love the fact that it&#8217;s a dynamic and young environment. Sure, the typical agency has changed over time. But the places I worked at employed some of the most interesting, gentle and even some of the smartest people I ever met. It would be unfair to attach the term Playground to it &#8211; at least that&#8217;s not how I experienced it &#8211; but it was a good time wherever I worked. Agencies may be run sometimes by stressed, professional lifetime teenagers. But generally we are talking about very interesting places where people like each other and a kind of a community forms.</p>
<p>I guess there is not one agency person who at some point in his life raved about changing into &#8216;the industry&#8217; (where everything will be good) or to be self-employed (where also everything will be good). So actually only few of the marketing peeps I got to know in my life would get up and fight to death if the concept of ad/marketing/whatever agency would be endangered. But isn&#8217;t that strange? Isn&#8217;t there a reason why we actually like to work for agencies as improvable as it is as a concept?</p>
<p>A couple of days ago I posted the following Dilbert cartoon on the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/davaidavai">Facebook page of this blog</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://davaidavai.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dilbert.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3254" title="dilbert" src="http://davaidavai.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dilbert.jpg" alt="" width="590" /></a></p>
<p>My Facebook page has about 520 members and an average post gets 5 to 10 likes. This particular one received 366 likes as it was apparently shared 280 times since I posted it (and I just stole it and re-posted it either). Oh&#8230;and that&#8217;s just my starting point. In the summer 2010 a hilarious Tumblr concept went viral: &#8216;<a href="http://tpdsaa.tumblr.com/">Things real people don&#8217;t say in advertising</a>&#8216;&#8230;</p>
<p>The title says it all: It is a concept that makes fun of the idealistic way agencies and clients describe their clients. Because to be perfectly honest: Few of us really believe that the ordinary customer is interested in more branded messages. And yes, that is a conflict in what many of us must say professionally.</p>
<p><a href="http://davaidavai.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tumblr_lf30o58Ubl1qziezc.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3255" title="Stuff real people don't say in advertising" src="http://davaidavai.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tumblr_lf30o58Ubl1qziezc.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="411" /></a></p>
<p>Did I mention &#8216;<a href="http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad/">Women alone laughing with Salad?</a>&#8216;, another site dedicated to take the piss out of brand marketing. This time out of stock photos which pretty much look the same.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t even want to mention <a href="http://davaidavai.com/tag/st-john/">the brilliant video pisstakes</a> John St did to ridicule award shows and narrow-minded agency concepts, <a href="http://adverbatims.blogspot.com/">Adverbatims</a> &#8211; the most horrific client quotes and a lot more.</p>
<p>At the same time there is still this fascination for advertising, marketing and agencies. But: While digital marketing has more than obviously started (and won) the revolution against the ad agencies we seem to downgrade this in our relationship to the marketing industry.  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804503/">Mad Men</a>? This is a series about the dark ages of advertising, about BUY, BUY, BUY. And still <a href="http://www.google.nl/search?gcx=c&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=mad+men+party">agencies dress up as Draper&#8217;s agency </a><a href="http://www.google.nl/search?gcx=c&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=mad+men+party">Sterling &amp; Cooper</a> while their community manager simultaneously tweets about the dawn of a new agency era.</p>
<p>Seriously: Have agency peeps become a bit <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism">romantic</a>? You know: Miserably living in the present while silently wishing back the past (when everything was clear, sexy and being an Art Director was exotic and very well paid)?</p>
<p>(...)<br/>Read the rest of <a href="http://davaidavai.com/2011/12/01/just-a-question-do-you-actually-hate-your-job/">Just a Question. Do you actually hate your Job?</a> (163 words)</p>
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		<title>Poll. Is there still a line between traditional and digital marketing jobs?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marketing people usually have marketing friends. Personally I switched from traditional advertising to digital about five years ago. And even though I was quite doubtful in the beginning, I am very happy about this decision. Nevertheless I watch friends from traditional advertising trying to cross the (still existing) border between advertising and digital. Some are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing people usually have marketing friends. Personally I switched from traditional advertising to digital about five years ago. And even though I was quite doubtful in the beginning, I am very happy about this decision. Nevertheless I watch friends from traditional advertising trying to cross the (still existing) border between advertising and digital. Some are succesful because they may have worked on a couple of high profile digital projects. Some of them seem to have a harder time to become credible digital copywriters/concept developers/art directors.</p>
<p><strong>I would like to find out about your background and your vision</strong></p>
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<li>Do you consider yourself as an ad person? Is digital marketing advertising? Or is it something completely different?</li>
<li>Did you ever work in traditional advertising? If yes, when/how did you cross the line?</li>
<li>Do you think traditional and digital marketing will be fully integrated? Or will they their own silos?</li>
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<p><strong>I am very interested in what you think. </strong></p>
<p>Just answer the following quick polls and <a href="http://davaidavai.com/2010/02/02/poll-is-there-still-a-line-between-traditional-and-digital-marketing/" target="_blank">feel free to comment</a> on how you crossed the line from traditional to digital (or back).<br />
(...)<br/>Read the rest of <a href="http://davaidavai.com/2010/02/02/poll-is-there-still-a-line-between-traditional-and-digital-marketing/">Poll. Is there still a line between traditional and digital marketing jobs?</a> (6 words)</p>
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