Social CRM. Ready for action?

While we are talking way too much about real vs. not so real Social Media Experts, definitely too few people debate about what social might contribute to the value of business-client-relationship. I believe the question how CRM will evolve is absolutely crucial for what lies ahead in social. While we have to answer questions about Social ROI (which does not always make sense), all too often we really seem to care too little about customer relationship in a social era. In this post I would like to give a very brief introduction on the topic and discuss the question whether traditional CRM decentralizes itself or if we can integrate Social CRM in traditional tools.

What is Social CRM?
Social CRM is a term which evolved over the last couple of years as extension to the classic understanding of the different forms of traditional CRM. While CRM describes an “information industry term for methodologies, software, and usually Internet capabilities that help an enterprise manage customer relationships in an organized and efficient manner” (via Marios Alexandrou), Social CRM can be seen as the next step in a world which is more and more decentralized.

According to CRM maven Paul Greenberg Social CRM (SCRM) is:

CRM is a philosophy & a business strategy, supported by a technology platform, business rules, workflow, processes & social characteristics, designed to engage the customer in a collaborative conversation in order to provide mutually beneficial value in a trusted & transparent business environment. It’s the company’s response to the customer’s ownership of the conversation.

This definition gives a first idea on a Social CRM’s perspective on Social Media. The social element of CRM is an extension to traditional CRM and as it dramatically changes in what it adds to the features, functions and characteristics of CRM. “It still is based on the time honored principle that a business needs its customers and prefers them profitable and that same business needs to run itself effectively too” (via P. Greenberg).

This may not be too surprising for the ones among us who understand and/or lead Social Media but come from a different, rather classic advertising/Marketing/CRM background. Thus, Social CRM must be understood as another perspective on the social realm alongside with

  • Business: Social Business Strategy – As the overall strategy of a brand or company to deal with customers, communities and the outside social world. And the goals it want to achieve with it.
  • Organization: Social Business Design – As the intentional “creation of dynamic and socially calibrated systems, process, and culture” to support a social business strategy (via Dachis).
  • Technology: Enterprise 2.0 – As a highly disputed term to discribe the execution of the company mainly internal social business strategy through e.g. internal communities, new platforms, software etc.

Social CRM in this regard is the value driven, external execution of a Social Business strategy, focusing on building up on customer relationship in a more and more decentralized world. Social CRM combines all three factors, business, organization and technology. But it is its own beast.

It’s evolution baby!

Over decades Customer Relationship Management revolved around the idea who we can identify and interact with users who are somehow yet or maybe not yet interacting with a company using traditional means. The question was how to we engage the most valuable customers in manner which directly increases their value to our company in the future. The interaction method and concept is direct…obviously.

Traditional CRM

With the evolution of a decentralized, social world a challenge arose for traditional CRM: Customers (or future customers) did now interact with the company in a more decentralized manner. They recommended stuff to their peers, uploaded brand fan videos (and so forth) but weren’t necessarily part of our customer database. We now have to deal with P2P, context and interaction beyond the traditional dialogue relationship of traditional CRM.

Social CRM

Systemizing it

To find an answer on the role of the company and how it reacts on this environment we have to make sure we use the term social properly. In the SCRM view of the social world we (as companies) ask ourselves how we develop classic leads into a nw idea of relationships. We are not discussing mainly internal, organizational questions here. We are asking ourselves how we can identify multipliers and make them evelove in an organized, integrated and systematic manner. SCRM is about serving customers without alienating them while keeping the organizational needs front and center. And the question of systemizing the social world is a challenge.

Customer retention, customer advocacy, crowdsourcing and micro targeting as elements of a SCRM strategy require two things: An overall CRM validation tool (and of course a strategy) + social monitoring/measurement modules and metrics designed to fulfill our special needs. Lithium, Salesforce, Buzzstream and a couple of others are coming up with social tools which add social monitoring/measurement capabilities to CRM tools. But these tools don’t seem to be sufficient currently.

Questions over questions

Decentralized monitoring and measurement tools will probably not be an integral part of big centralized systems for quite some time. Current SCRM tools seem to be very similar to ‘traditional’ social media monitoring solutions such as Radian6, Scoutlabs and others. That may be sufficient for micro targeting, customer service etc. but probably not sufficient to enrich big company databases with new, decentralized data from social networks. Not enough insight for big long-lasting CRM plas. Plus, even if we could integrate all data: Would they be sufficient to give a clear insight on our customers, strategies which might result from it. And the question whether we’ll find a reasonable substitute to sentiment analysis while SCRM evolves? How do we turn an ecosystem of more or less small decentralized CRM-subtools into a big masterplan? This is the question.

And it turns SCRM into one of the most interesting elements of the social revolution. Beyond the question of the organizational revolution taking place, it takes us back to one of the original questions which we get asked quite frequently. How do you sell? The question will stay the same: We won’t sell without a strategy. But, whatever you do: When it comes to an external concept to systemize social as a brand or company, Social CRM will probably be crucial when it overcomes its current weaknesses.

To end with a quote by Ed Thompon of Gartner on the next decades with Social CRM on Esteban Kolsky’s blog:

I’ll look out 10 years. Social CRM will move from 0.1% of CRM application spending to 10% of all spending by then. Still not anywhere near as big as traditional SFA, Campaign Mgmt, Customer Service but vastly bigger spending than today. I don’t think it will be revolution but it will be a big change from today. Personally I think 2020-2030 will see the bigger transformation of CRM applications and processes.

Please share your thoughts on the question where SCRM evolves. Beyond strategy I am especially interested in your thoughts on SCRM tools and how they might evolve. Will social integrate into nowaday’s tools? Or will we decentralize CRM alltogether?

For further reading on Social CRM please follow these links:

Addendum (Oct 22nd 2009)

Over the last couple of weeks a set of very insightful articles were published. I would especially like to recommend
Esteban Kolsky’s great article series “The roadmap to SCRM” Part 1 and Part 2

  • http://www.jesushoyos.com/ Jesus Hoyos

    Like this very much… “Social CRM in this regard is the value driven, external execution of a Social Business strategy”… great article

  • http://twitter.com/JohnFMoore John Moore

    First, great post.

    While many view Social CRM as the promise of what comes next, an evolution as you
    noted, I feel strongly that CRM is a failed framework (and tools) and we should be seeking a new way of thinking, not just building off of the old models that have led to 50%+ CRM failure rates. Instead of repeating my current thinking, check out my latest post here:

    http://johnfmoore.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/cust

    which explains the fact that Social Business Design is what comes next and how customers, not vendors, must lead the way.

    Evolutionary approaches to CRM will only lead to decades of additional failure and pain for corporate customers.

    Anyone up for a new way of thinking?

    John Moore
    http://twitter.com/JohnFMoore

  • ghensel

    Definitely John, but currently I only see a valid analysis. Do you have a solution? That's what I am really interested in…

  • http://twitter.com/JohnFMoore John Moore

    As I noted in my post, here is what I am pushing for:

    - Organize the “Social CRM” vendors to help form an industry-wide council on how to overcome the failures of the success. It is ridiculous to think that 10 years from now we will still be looking at 50% failure rates for 6 and 7 figure deployments.
    - That the vendors that participate are joined by key consulting organizations and a mix of customers to help define and drive the solutions. In fact, I want these customers, not the vendors, to set the direction. They understand their businesses better than any of us ever will.

    This group will identify the common causes of failure, define standard processes that should be used by consultants and customers as part of any deployment, it will also define open standards that will define products that play well together without paying tens, or hundreds, of thousands of dollars to consultants to perform complex integrations.

    Is this a quick solution? No. Is it a solution that can work? Yes?

    Who's in?

    John

  • ghensel

    I agree with your idea to overcome traditional structures with an industry wide council. Nevertheless I am afraid this “new” council will try to do the same what has happened over decades. Thus we would again build institutions which concetrate power. And who are “key consulting organizations and a mix of customers”. I like the idea but it sounds very difficult to realize. But is this a problem of the term 'Social CRM'? Hmmm…dont think so.

  • http://twitter.com/JohnFMoore John Moore

    Not sure what you mean about the same as has happened over decades…. Could you explain? I haven't been in the CRM game for decades so maybe this concept has been tried and failed, would love to hear more as I could be off base on the entire concept.

    The other point to clarify, since people are constantly misunderstanding my point (my fault I am sure). CRM has failed countless reasons. One of those reasons, to be clear, is not due to the CRM name. Social CRM is already going down the same path of failure. No, not due to the name. However, the name is associated with failure (failure rates do not lie).

    Take a moment and ask a support engineer, a sales person, a marketing person, and an IT person to define CRM. You will get very different answers from each of them as the term CRM has been used as a term for sales force automation, for help desk solutions, and so on and so forth. Is this part of the reason for failure? Yes, it is. It is funny to see how often CRM implementations fail due to competing needs of each of a company's internal teams. Each have different goals, different expectations, for their CRM system to meet.

    Anyway, people that choose to focus on my point about the issue with the name are missing the bigger picture. The name, while wrong, is a small part of a much larger set of problems.

    John

  • ghensel

    I think you're absolutely right when you say there are zillion definitions of CRM out there and no really defined framwork. CRM for an ad guy means mailings and it's databases for a techie. And you think, the word CRM itself shouldn't be used anymore? Where do you see the reason for failure? Was CRM too static for our reality? Was the model just not right?

  • http://twitter.com/JohnFMoore John Moore

    While the specifics of each failure will differ, many of the high-level reasons include:

    - Unclear definition of what company wants to accomplish by deploying a CRM system.
    - Competing internal goals for a CRM system. The stakeholder investing money into the project will drive what is implemented (sales, marketing, support, finance, execs)… Unfortunately, this often means that the stakeholders goals are met but the other teams within the company are disappointed because the CRM system failed to meet their expectations.

    - Incomplete understanding of internal processes. Many companies, even those that have a good understanding of their formal processes, lack an understanding of those hidden processes that exist within every organization.
    - Many consultants, but not all, fail to invest time in educating customers, in gathering business requirements, in finding the right tools for the problems. Too many lead with technology over business process analysis.
    - Incomplete technical solutions. CRM solutions are almost always one size fits all: UIs that do not match how end-users work, inflexible workflows, …

    I could probably keep going, I'll stop there for now.

  • http://www.losasso.com/ Maggie

    Great article! You really broke CRM down and identified how its changed in recent years. I especially enjoyed the Social CRM Environment image, great depiction of the process.

  • ghensel

    Thanks a lot. This terrain is quite new (still) and I wish I could have given more answers than to ask even more questions. The main social part about it is to discuss and to hopefully come to new solutions.

  • http://www.reddunefilms.com Martin Walsh

    I have been very actively involved in trying to define and operationalise Individual Lifecycle Marketing (ILM) and CRM as the Head of Digital Marketing at Microsoft and I have also been leading the effort to define, educate and operationalise Social CRM for some time now.

    I developed an early draft outline of what I think Social CRM is and the benefits it can provide an organisation – http://www.slideshare.net/martinwalsh/social-cr

    You can also view a more comprehensive PowerPoint on SlideShare around Digital Marketing 7 Social Influence Marketing here – http://www.slideshare.net/martinwalsh/monologue

    One of the first problems with any new and or emerging discipline or concepts is defining it in a way which makes sense to marketers and management (and yourself). The next step can then be developing and defining solutions and integration points, skills, resources, actionable & insightful measurement & analytics and lastly operationalising it across multiple business units and job disciplines.

    I hope this helps!

  • ghensel

    Thanks Martin. This definitely is awesome. I just took a glance at your deck and thought that this is one of the more elaborated SCRM documents I have seen in a while. I will work this through and ask a lot of questions…

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  • jackjds1

    Great post. Pretty much a gist of the whole Social CRM environment

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